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I’m glad that you liked it. It took me a long time to figure out how tall a pile of coins would be.
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Thank you so much.
I wondered about the topic, but some articles base their calculations on weight of PURE metal while trying to keep the idea of “50 coins of ANY metal = 1 lb”… So they assume gold pieces are smaller than copper pieces, so 36 gp weigh as 17 cp… It’s remarkable, but it’s a rabbit hole of complexity that I can’t use in play.
Your table is beautiful in its elegancy. 12000 Coins = 1 cubic foot = 240 lb. That’s what I needed. The only thing I woud like to add is the difference between loose heap of coins vs. neatly stacked packs.
Here is a rule of thumb I use:
Stacking disorganised pile of coins reduces its volume by 25%.
Scattering previously stacked coins increases their bulk by 33%.
The number (and weight) of coins in disorganised heap is 25% less compared to stacks.
The number (and weight) of coins in organised stacks is 33% more compared to heap.
So 1 cubic foot can contain 12000 coins stacked or 9000 coins scattered, 240 lb and 180 lb respectively. Feel free to implement/ignore it.
Btw, this 25% factor was calculated. I’ll provide this boring data below.
It is based of this article: http://dmsworkshop.com/2017/08/11/a-guide-to-dnd-coins/
Paraphrasing: 1 cubic feet of stacked coins contains 78.6% of treasure (the rest is empty space between round, stamped coins). Loose pile contains 60% of coins. Single solid block of metal would have 100%.
If we accept this statement, then the difference between organized/loose coins equals
0.6 / 0.786 = 0.763
That’s 76.3%. I round it down to 75%.
So every time we need to reduce something (volume of coins because PCs organize them into stacks, or number of coins because they hastily pour money into 1x1x1 foot box), multiply by 0.75.
Every time we need to increase something (number of coins because PCs organize them, or volume of coins because they hastily pour them), multiply by 1.33.
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Tank you for this. I have always found the topic fascinating.
I originally intended to include a separate value for stacked vs. loose coins.
In the article “How Many Coins Fit in a Coffer?”, by David F. Godwin in Dragon Issue #80 in 1983, he stated that the figure for loose coins is 110% of the effective volume of a stacked coin. Your claim it is 133%. Either of these could be less if you take the time to shake the container. The point is, there is no agreement in this, but I think your figure is perfectly usable for gaming purposes.
I don’t think that I will add it to my tables. I will of course leave your comment here for others to use, but in my games (and the reason I didn’t include loose coins originally) is that it adds more complexity than I want to deal with.
Thank you for sharing your idea.
Renumber, any container might hold fewer coins than indicated on these tables.
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